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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 10, 2020 16:46:14 GMT
Unfortunately Imgur converts the .png files to .jpg files, so had to upload them to Google Drive. Here are 2 recent random landscape pictures I quickly made using Photo Mode, so please don't mind the Action thingy in the lower right corner heh. Personally I don't think these look that bad, but there was one particular point for me after one of the earlier updates that just made me cringe when watching a cutscene. It's better now though. Maybe not perfect, but the game's playable for me
As far as the screen tearing is concerned: I both tried Firefox (default browser) and Edge. It doesn't matter. Then again it is also there when you fire up a game (obviously). So far a reboot usually helps. Still seems weird though. And if the driver crashed you'd think you'd get a notification if that happens?
Starting to think I could consider a new PC now I no longer have a cat to feed, but it just seems too soon to start finding a new buddy.
On the other hand I'm not even sure I want another cat. And then I find myself looking at kittens and come across this one: Crap... link not working AAARGH!!! It's just too soon
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Post by Tup on Sept 10, 2020 18:55:52 GMT
Those linked images have no issues what so ever - antialiasing looks pretty much as good as it can get. I assume the settings weren't maxed out and/or the texture filtering works really poorly if one doesn't force anisotropic filtering from the driver. Keep in mind that not all cut scenes are rendered in game. The difference is rather obvious compared to maxed out game. Drivers can crash and reset without any notice and things may or may not works right after that. You can check event viewer for those (System Tools -> Event Viewer -> Windows Logs -> System and then "Filter Current Log" -> Select Display from "Event Sources" and press OK). If you are using some kind of multi display setup then depending on how you pick the settings you might get tearing on one display. In any case, you should install latest drivers and pick clean install mode: www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/driverResults.aspx/163100/en-ukPersonally I'm not a dog nor cat guy. My bro has two dogs and while the older one is really nice dog now, the recently born puppy (which isn't that "puppy" any more) definitely has some learning to do. Biggest issue is that they really make ones life hard and everyone will circle around them. You need to take 'em out, feed them... also if you go to trip... Too much work for me. In fact, I've never been a dog fan (more like fear them and avoid all contact if possible - some childhood traumas).
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 10, 2020 19:47:24 GMT
Thanks, Tup: I'm not going to bother now checking the last time when my drivers crashed, but in case I do come across this issue again it's nice to know where I can find if it's a crashed driver issue. The screenshots I linked to were fairly recent after the update to 1.04 and after I changed the adaptive frame rate issue. But maybe the few scenes I had issues with weren't rendered to the max? No multi-display setup for me. Briefly considered using my old Alienware monitor as a second display, but then I wondered if I really needed it and whether it would cause much strain on the GPU? Also I don't suppose I see much use for a second monitor for me anyway... I never max out the settings for any game. I guess character textures are most important to me. With most other things I don't mind a bit of quality loss there. Action, my current screen recording software, roughly gives me 30 FPS when recording and no stutterin, so that is something I can live with/ Almost always install the latest GPU driver on the same day it's released. Definitely no more than a week after it's been released and I always use the clean install option, so I guess that's not really an issue here. So maybe it's poor rendering of those poor cutscenes I saw then.
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 11, 2020 21:48:56 GMT
Only just noticed your dog/cat guy remark Tup. When I grew up, at one point we had 2 cats. First one, then at some point my mom brought home another rescue kitten. My dad was never fond of cats, but my mom, sister and I loved them. Once both cats were gone my parents never got a new cat, since my mom developed an allergy. When my sister moved out she ended up getting 2 male kittens from the same nest though. One of them has been missing for over 6 months now, so I guess he's no longer alive. Funny detail, when my parents and I went on a trip to Malaysia at one point we ended up staying at a beach resort and there were a few cats roaming around the place. One of them seemed to always want to sit on my dad's lap lol. And it turns out that my dad really ended up liking Smokey. He loved to give him cat treats when he dropped by my house. And he didn't mind feeding Smokey and cleaning his litter bin when I went to Scotland with my sister. I think he's actually been crying a lot over the fact that Smokey's gone and even today after I picked up Smokey's ashes from the vet. I don't think he's ever cried about losing a cat before. Dogs and cats... I suppose cats are easier to keep, more self-sufficient, since they don't need to be taken out. I suppose I'd like dogs too, but if you're working shifts it's pretty much impossible to take them out at regular times and I'm pretty sure that's what dogs need. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. With cats I guess you only need to make sure there's enough food and a reasonably clean litter bin.
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Post by Tup on Sept 12, 2020 14:27:35 GMT
Thanks, Tup : I'm not going to bother now checking the last time when my drivers crashed, but in case I do come across this issue again it's nice to know where I can find if it's a crashed driver issue. The screenshots I linked to were fairly recent after the update to 1.04 and after I changed the adaptive frame rate issue. But maybe the few scenes I had issues with weren't rendered to the max? No multi-display setup for me. Briefly considered using my old Alienware monitor as a second display, but then I wondered if I really needed it and whether it would cause much strain on the GPU? Also I don't suppose I see much use for a second monitor for me anyway... I never max out the settings for any game. I guess character textures are most important to me. With most other things I don't mind a bit of quality loss there. Action, my current screen recording software, roughly gives me 30 FPS when recording and no stutterin, so that is something I can live with/ Almost always install the latest GPU driver on the same day it's released. Definitely no more than a week after it's been released and I always use the clean install option, so I guess that's not really an issue here. So maybe it's poor rendering of those poor cutscenes I saw then. Personally I always max out everything and when the frame rate drops below what I find enjoyable experience, it's time to upgrade. I fine around 45 fps still acceptable with adaptive sync display but one things drop below that it's just "too cinematic" for me. On top of the slideshow responsiveness takes a massive toll. Once you've experienced anything over 75 Hz display, going down to 30 fps wouldn't really be acceptable... and I've always used >=75Hz. It wasn't really nice to downgrade refresh rate when I switched from CRT to TFT. There are about 8 gigs worth of prerendered cutscenes so chances are that those are the problem. Although they are 4K... but compression artifacts do hurt them. Screen tearing in Windows desktop shouldn't happen if GPU drivers are installed and working properly. Sound like something is broken. You coudl try running DISM /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth and after it SFC /SCANNOW From command prompt/powershell console in admin mode (and restart the system). You could also try reinstalling Windows. By the way, AMD tells more about their new cards late next month. I don't have any plans to buy their stuff. While my work laptop Ryzen 7 PRO 4750U is awesome CPU (8 cores, 16 threads) and the GPU is acceptable for desktop use, I'm not too sure about their graphics drivers. There are some rendering issues in Chromium browsers and Teams video chat flickers constantly. On top of that they really nerfed video settings in their driver for new cards (Navi, Renoir). Video decoding doesn't seem as efficient either and the way it processes video doesn't seem on par with NVIDIA. I wouldn't be surprised if RDNA2 also lacks AV1 decoding. It does look almost certain that 20GB RTX 3080 is coming so I'll wait a bit and see how things go.
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Post by Tup on Sept 12, 2020 14:30:17 GMT
Only just noticed your dog/cat guy remark Tup . When I grew up, at one point we had 2 cats. First one, then at some point my mom brought home another rescue kitten. My dad was never fond of cats, but my mom, sister and I loved them. Once both cats were gone my parents never got a new cat, since my mom developed an allergy. When my sister moved out she ended up getting 2 male kittens from the same nest though. One of them has been missing for over 6 months now, so I guess he's no longer alive. Funny detail, when my parents and I went on a trip to Malaysia at one point we ended up staying at a beach resort and there were a few cats roaming around the place. One of them seemed to always want to sit on my dad's lap lol. And it turns out that my dad really ended up liking Smokey. He loved to give him cat treats when he dropped by my house. And he didn't mind feeding Smokey and cleaning his litter bin when I went to Scotland with my sister. I think he's actually been crying a lot over the fact that Smokey's gone and even today after I picked up Smokey's ashes from the vet. I don't think he's ever cried about losing a cat before. Dogs and cats... I suppose cats are easier to keep, more self-sufficient, since they don't need to be taken out. I suppose I'd like dogs too, but if you're working shifts it's pretty much impossible to take them out at regular times and I'm pretty sure that's what dogs need. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. With cats I guess you only need to make sure there's enough food and a reasonably clean litter bin. Dogs are definitely much more work... Most don't poop inside. Also they're usually much larger than cats.
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 14, 2020 22:08:05 GMT
Heh, also don't want to think about having to get up at 5:00 am to walk the dog before going to work. 5:30 am is horrible enough for me already lol.
Although I can now have an extra 10 - 15 minutes of sleep, since I no longer have to feed and treat the cat and scoop the litter from his bin. It is really quiet in the house now though.
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 15, 2020 19:23:11 GMT
Tup: Think I found a good example of the AA issue: Close-ups from different cutscenes and taken on the same date. No settings changed... So, like you mentioned, it looks like an issue of some cutscenes not being rendered fully in game and I guess a new GPU would probably also show a difference in quality.
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Post by Tup on Sept 15, 2020 19:57:16 GMT
Well, new GPU won't change a thing unless you up the image quality settings. By the way, in game AF is bugged and texture filtering is horrible unless it's forced through the driver. That first image... It's clearly not being rendered in anywhere near 4K. Only special cases have prerendered cut scenes and those should be 4K. Which makes me believe that you still have resolutions scaling or performance target enabled (or it's kicking in for some reason). By the way, I compared one shot on first page with mine: Mine's on left. Yours looks zoomed because it's 4K and mine is 1440p. Detail wise even though it's 4K it isn't anywhere near because graphics settings are clearly not the same and the actual render resolution seems to be closer to 1080p than even 1440p (you either did not have render resolution at 100% or had performance target). Also I have forced 16x anisotropic filtering from the driver.
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 15, 2020 20:06:19 GMT
Well, we clearly cannot compare my graphics settings to yours, because it's quite understandable that there'd be quality loss for me.
But all this make me wonder if these different cutscenes/different rendering issues also occured on the PlayStation? Anyone here who played this game on a PlayStation?
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Post by Tup on Sept 17, 2020 19:12:32 GMT
Pre-rendered videos are 4K so they should look fine sharpness wise (minus compression artifacts - also they are used in special cases only, like the long intro). Only reason why things would look bad is down to graphics settings. Forcing anisotropic filtering from driver will fix blurry texture rendering. Disabling performance target and making sure that render scale is 100% will ensure native resolution rendering. If performance is poor, I'd rather just drop the resolution. That way screenshots would at least look pixel perfect. Obviousl lower graphics settings will make hit the grpahics quality (lower resolutions postprocessing and so on). These are the pre-rendered cut scenes and they are all 4K: Can't remember if PS4 version used dynamic resolution in 1080p mode. 4K mode used checkerboard rendering.
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 17, 2020 19:58:16 GMT
So I assume this would go for the PlayStation as well then. Now that I know that not not all scenes are fully rendered in 4K I guess I can't be bothered with it anymore. It is what it is. Latest few cutscenes I went through looked decent enough for me. Game had another update to v1.05 I wish the game didn't have to optimise all the settings again after every update though. In any case: thanks for looking into this, Tup
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 19, 2020 20:29:11 GMT
Completed about 60% of the game so far. Didn't touch the Frozen Wilds DLC yet though. Nonetheless I still think the story's pretty good.
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Post by Tup on Sept 19, 2020 20:55:19 GMT
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Post by GroundSquirrel on Sept 20, 2020 18:57:33 GMT
Great shots, Tup
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